Talk:Blue Osprey
!!! [Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: BTW, I want Blue to be associated with an organization. Like UNTIL or PRIMUS or some shit. But uh, how should I go about doing that, Mr. Loresman?
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Osprey, you mean?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Aye
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: What's her schtick? I'll tell you what's available for her using that schtick.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Uh, she's a tactile PK user. Basically psionic superstrength.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: ... She doesn't have a whole theme set out yet, not developed her character enough, yet.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Tactile PK or any Psionic ability would sit well with Project Mindgame, UNTIL's anti-PSI department
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: That sounds good, yeah. I'll read into it. Would she be assigned to non-PSI related missions? Just as a general super-hero thing.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: No. UNTIL works as does any military.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Specialized sub-divisions working on specific tasks.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Just as you don't sent out a hacker to fight in the field, you don't send a Project Mindgame agent to missions outside Project Mindgame.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: That's not what they're trained for, that's not their forte.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: (Right. Just wondering. Might not be a good idea, because she's kinda been active in Canada.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: However, if you're looking for something less militaristic [as it would technically require her to wear a uniform] and more liberal [like just a hero, with an affiliation]...
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: You could go for the Steelhead thing. For Canadian forces
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: US forces don't work in Canada, Canadian forces don't work in the US. UNTIL works almost everywhere, but they are very strict.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: (Hm.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: As in, Blue would have to be more of a soldier, less of a hero. Meaning - squad commands, standard issue attire and gear, so on, and so on.))
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Heroes don't serve in military units for 2 reasons.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: 1. Unfair advantage, the Security Council will not allow it.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: 2. They're impossible to control, and military requires strict discipline.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: You don't enlist someone who can turn the drill instructor into a literal drill.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: (YOU'RE A LOOSE CANNON, OZ. YOU'RE OFF THE FOR-- A'ight.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Because the whole point of the military is that you take orders from whoever's incharge. Even if they're -not- older/wiser
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: /stronger
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: ... True. Anyways, she's kinda a superhero, so that's not happening, I don't think. Hm.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Hard to pull off a -good- military character.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Usually, you have to either have actual military experience, or study it a -lot-.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Otherwise, you just get every "military" character you see in Caprice.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Who probably can't tell you who and when are you supposed to salute.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Hah. Well, I'm just working on hoboknight's costume here...
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: I want to give him a sorta make-shift armor look. But Anybody with half a brain knows that a tire for a shoulderpad's a bad idea. Bat hits tire vertically, bounces off+
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: towards the head.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Steelhead Branch is a branch of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, designed to deal with metahuman threats, after Canada fails to form an organized superteam
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Formed in 1998.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Right. SHe can still launch herself to America when she's off-duty, right?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Also, imagining her as a Mountie is hilarious in my mind.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Certainly. You do know that the other side of the river is Canada, right?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: True
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: I'm assuming the RCMP-Steelhead won't be -just- in Force Station Steelhead. Maybe just primarily.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: So she just jumps back and forth between the two.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: But they're meant to deal with metahuman threats all over canada.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: It's more than reasonable for her to be a Canadian living in the States, or an American volunteering/working with the RCMP.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Well, she's Canadian.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: How old is she?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Twenty-something. May have to check her bio. But I think she's 22.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: 22, born between August-1992 to August-1993. Meaning she was 5-6 when the Steelhead initiative even started.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Could easily be that her parents decided to migrate to the States due to that specific fact that Canada does not have a stable anti-meta-crime organization.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Well, that's some useful info. Will put that on her PDB page.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: August-92 - august-93 is the range she has to be to be 22 :3 Either freshly 22 or almost 23
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: And could be when she got older, she wanted to help Canada, not the States.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: At the age of 5-6 she'd definitely be able to feel like she was taken from her home because of metahuman crime.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: And she might certainly want to keep said crime to a minimum, in her proper home country.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Having lived in the States since before 1998, she'd definitely be eligable for american citizenship, giving her 2 citizenships [US, and Canada]
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Which makes the passing of the border between Detroit [MC] and Windsor, Ontario [across the river], a rather easy task
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: As she's a citizen of both countries.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: And I, LoreLord, have saved the day once more!
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Alright, thanks for all the info, overhauling her bio now.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Anytime
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Any idea when VIPER activity started in Canada? Because if it was before she was born, that definately gives her parents a reason to get their psionic kid the fuck out of Canada.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: VIPER activity has definitely started before she was born.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: I know the group was formed in the sixties, but I was just wondering if they were kinda new in Canada, thanks though.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: VIPER became publically known [and active] starting August 22nd, 1962, event known as Green Monday.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Where they assassinated dosens of underworld, political and industrial figures.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: They are the reason UNTIL was formed in 1965
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Ah, well then. That's definately something to keep in mind.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Project Snakecharmer is UNTIL's oldest and longest operating project. But chances are they will rather not use a psionic as a rank and file soldier within said project.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Standard Issue being a military staple, after all.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: There are, naturally, military-funded superteams [like UNITY being an extension of UNTIL, and Sayeret 19 being Israel's major Hero team, Sayeret being an IDF term]
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: But those operate under different roles.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: I love how Champions Lore even mentions a Palestinian Solo Hero called "The Liberator".
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: ...I bet you that he's considered a Villain to Israelies.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: too much lore!
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: I KNOW ALL THE LORE
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Well, not all of it.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: A lot of it. Champions has a LOT of lore.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Just realized that Oz's parents couldn't really catch a break... They moved out of Canada in the same year as the battle of Detroit happened...
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Or, wait... No.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Battle of Detroit was in, July 22nd, 1992.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Detroit's construction finished some time in 1999. Could be they moved then.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Or moved -after- the battle into one of Detroit's undestroyed subburbs.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Actually. I have an idea.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: That's true.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: I have an awesome idea.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: ?
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: After the events of July 22nd 1992 [i.e. Battle of Detroit, the government started something called "The Millennium Project"
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Along with the heads of several of America's largest corporations.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Sounds eerily similar to the Manhattan project, but continue.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: It was a program designed to rebuild Detroit before the year of 2001. In exchange for donations of their time, expertise, and technology, participating corporations and
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: companies would receive -massive- tax breaks and waves of positive publicity.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: So.... Unsolved Meta Crime and VIPER presence in Canada, promise of significant benefits for helping Detroit... What if her parents [one of, or both] were industrialists?
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: That would certainly give them more than enough reason to move to MC before 1999, and after 1992.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: True!
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: So, before 1998
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Or even if they were heroes, as a lot of heroes helped with the construction.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Because, Steelhead was formed hten
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: When do you reckon she was born?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: 92
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: That's what we said, wasn't it?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Between 92 and 98, then.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: You said she's 22, so she has to be born anywhere between August 13th 1992 [meaning she'd be 23 tomorrow] to August 12th 1993 [meaning she's 22 today]
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Well, her age is a minor detail that can be changed at the flick of a wrist. So she could be 23 or even 25. Let's just get to writing this whole backstory down.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Either way, after Detroit's disaster and after the Millennium Project was officially declared [presumably. Doesn't say when the project was officially declared. I'm assuming
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: it was declared in the aftermath of the battle [22-23 of July, 1992]
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: UNTIL was approved to work on US soil in April 1993, forming the first UNTIL office on US soil in MC.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Excluding the UNTIL HQ which is and always was under the main UN compound in New York, of course.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: If she was born before the battle, she could remember seeing it on TV, actually.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Depending on how old she was.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: True, maybe she's a bit older? Maybe 26-28?
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Battle could've invoked strong feelings, making her powers known for the first time, scaring her parents into moving.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Lets say she was... About 5 during the battle, for a reasonable age to have sufficient intelligence to react to such a battle.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Meaning she was born between... July 23rd 1986 to July 22nd 1987.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: You can pick the date from that period for her to have been 5.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Anything before would be 6 anything after would be 4
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Saw the battle, strong emotions caused a spike in her power [broke the coffee table]
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: [or something]
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Couch exploded, obviously.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Parents panic, worrying VIPER will try and take their little baby away. Decide to move to the only place that will be financially reasonable - MC.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: They help build the city from the ground up, letting Osprey get a lot of exposure to superheroes [in a time where superheroes were practically celebrities]
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Her mother's a superhero, father's an industrial worker, which makes it even beneficial to them.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: So lots and lots of positive influence.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Yeah.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: So she grows up with good, strong positive feelings to both MC and Canada.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Imagining dorky silver-agey outfits on a middle-aged woman who's obviously her mother already.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Making her want to join the RCMP Steelhead at age of X, while still doing occassional hero work in MC
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: ASPRA-registration will certainly be a non-issue as it'd be done as soon as they cross the border and apply for US citizenship.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: And Sanctioning to work as a hero in the US will not be an issue considering her parents' good record, and her experience/training from the RCMP Steelhead
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: So, her mother would be about 50-something at the time of the battle... Thinking she was a Superhero in canada, fighting Viper, maybe?
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Could be. Could even still be doing that after they moved.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: We are conveniently close to Canada, after all.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Could be she chose to retire in 1998 to raise her family, now that Steelhead was formed, and Canada has proper protection
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Good idea, I should make a picture of her mother for the PDB page.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: She could also have been in the Northern Guard herself.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: That's Canada's Superteam, betwen 1978 and 1998
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Alright, then. This is a good idea.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: First Northern Guard was formed in 1978, second run formed in 1984, Canadian heroes were required to register starting 1985 [Superhuman Sponsorship Act]
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: 1994 - Gadroon invade Canada, defeated by heroes who then form the 3rd Northern Guard.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Right... You got an idea for the superhero name of her silver-agey mother?
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: 1998, The 3rd Northern Guard votes to dissolve itself. RCMP forms Steelhead Branch as an alternative :3
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: And that's Canadian superhero history for you from.. 1978 till 1998 :3
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Silver Age superhero name for a Canadian heroine...
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Mooseknuckle.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Oh god that's horrible, even by my standard.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Oh wow
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: I'm gonna go with Goshawk
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Going with the bird superhero theme
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: That was racist, sexist, -and- perverted. And what's Goshawk?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Goshawk, it's a type of bird. Sort-of a portmanteau of the words Goose-hawk.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Righto. Well. Canada doesn't have an official bird yet. Except the Common Loon, but that's still voted on.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: The Loon appears on Canadian currency, though.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Having a superhero named Loon doesn't give off the right impression
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provincial_and_territorial_symbols - By province :3
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Just makes her soudn crazy
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Or by territories.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: So you can pick a bird name according to where she's from. To show that Silver-Age patriotism!
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Actually going by birds of prey that are in Canada, really.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Maybe her mother was a Falconer
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Ontario is Common Loon, too :|
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: God damn it, Ontario.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Nova Scotia's the Osprey!~
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: If they're from farther than Ontario, you got... Osprey in Nova Scotia, yeah
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Maybe the title is passed down
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: She could be the White Osprey, for the white of the flag. Blue could be Blue Osprey for the blue of the flag?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Ooh, maybe she was her mother's sidekick for a while
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Imagine that
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: THE BLUE AND WHITE
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: That came to mind as soon as I said the White and Blue.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: NOVA SCOTIA REPRESENT
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: So they'd probably be from Halifax. province "capital" and all that
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Yeah. Halifax is also a really cool name for a city.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: "One Defends and the Other Conquers" - White Osprey draws their fire as a Tank, Blue Osprey sweeps from behind to knock them out?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Actually, BO's a tank.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: I mean, in-game and canonically
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Other way around, then?
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: SHe's got a thing with PK fields. Basically making her superboy.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Though I think no mother will let her daughter tank for her.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: True'
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: HEY BABS, TAKE A HIT, I"MMA SWEEP THESE NERDS.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: But thanks, this is already my most developed character, I needed a reason other than being above level six to not delete her.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Yeah. Background development is my main schtick as a writer.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: I suck at creating a setting [world] for my characters, but give me any setting, and I write kick-ass chars.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Oh, that's great. I mean... I actually think I'm pretty decent at making my own settings... At least a basic framework, really.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Awful at small details
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: But big things, like the histories and relations of factions? Bam.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: http://primusdatabase.com/index.php?title=John_F._Turro - My most fleshed out PDB page
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Anyways, I was thinking her mother's a ranged psion, while her daughter's up-close.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: The 2 pages I made for King are pretty fleshed out, and I -did- write his history, but I decided to only put what -will- be possible to access as an actual page.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Rather than a whole bunch of OOC information no one other than King would know.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Well, other than King and people involved. It won't be written on a file somewhere.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Yeah, I might ditch the secret Identity deal with Oz, because her mother's kind-of a known, retired hero, doesn't take much research to find out who's who.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Unless she's still crimefighting in her 80's, which soudns totally badass.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: SO WHAT IF THE WHITE OSPREY'S GOT SOME WHITE IN HER HAIR? SHE'S STILL GOT FIGHT IN HER.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Lawl
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Well, some metahumans do age more slowly.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Yeah, Psionic healing prolly makes her far more healthy than a normal 80 year old
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Might look like she's in her 40's or 50's.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: I'm personally really proud of the custom picture I made for John, that shit looks so patriotic
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: 80's Action Movie patriotic.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: oh my god
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: You're right
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: THE EAGLE
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Gandalf is cumming on the eagles
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Which is fitting for a Marine that has been serving since 1988
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Once a Marine, Always a Marine and all that
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: But yeah, may need to make the costumes for Ozy's mother.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: That'll be fun to see.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: THinking of making her silver-age outfit something like Miss Marvel... And her current outfit... Like Miss Marvel's newest redesign.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: But also, 80-year-old veteran superhero sounds like an awesome character in itself.
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Ayup! Lots of history. Loooots of it. From punching Nazis and actual Gangsters, to punching New Purple Gangsters and Neo Nazis x3
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Oh shit.
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: SHe could just grumble about how nothing's changed -at all-0
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Circle of Life kind of shit
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: "I hate to admit it, but Hitler did it better!" *punches Neo Nazi out of orbit*
[Tell] Sharp@poeshmoe1: Wow
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: To be fair, the original Nazis are better than the Neo ones
[Tell] To Sharp@poeshmoe1: Hell, most of the Neo ones aren't even WHITE
[Tell] Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: CRASHED
[Tell] To Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: Lawl
[Tell] Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: Don't have everything written down, either.
[Tell] To Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: Damn
[Tell] Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: BRB, I think my phone's vibrating
[Tell] To Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: I got it all in history
[Tell] Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: GUH
[Tell] Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: Okay, uh.
[Tell] To Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: Copied it all into a notepad. I'll edit it into a decent format and send it to you.
[Tell] Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: Alright, Uh, not through in-game mail, maybe. But uh... HM. Maybe upload the conversation to the discussion page of BO's PDB page?
[Tell] Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: http://primusdatabase.com/index.php?title=Talk:Blue_Osprey
[Tell] To Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: Sure
[Tell] To Blue Osprey@poeshmoe1: AFK for editting
